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author | David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> | 2016-01-01 13:18:33 -0500 |
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committer | David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> | 2016-01-01 13:18:33 -0500 |
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diff --git a/2015/meeting-12-20-2015.txt b/2015/meeting-12-20-2015.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..65def5e --- /dev/null +++ b/2015/meeting-12-20-2015.txt @@ -0,0 +1,295 @@ +Dec 20 14:00:27 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: ping +Dec 20 14:00:56 <robbat2> antarus: ping +Dec 20 14:01:09 <robbat2> and dabbott, swift and myself are already here +Dec 20 14:01:23 <SwifT> indeed +Dec 20 14:03:47 * antarus arrives +Dec 20 14:04:04 <antarus> thanks for the text ;) +Dec 20 14:05:18 <NeddySeagoon> I've blown it .( +Dec 20 14:05:42 <robbat2> yay, an almost complete board! +Dec 20 14:06:22 <NeddySeagoon> We were doing the xmas decs and I've been sent for a chinese carry out +Dec 20 14:06:44 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: ah, so you have to depart +Dec 20 14:07:00 <robbat2> i can take care of most business, but I need your vote on something +Dec 20 14:07:05 <robbat2> before you go +Dec 20 14:07:17 <NeddySeagoon> I remembered when the car clock said 17:00 +Dec 20 14:07:38 <robbat2> via email, Neddy and I discussed offering dabbott the board seat from matthew's withdrawl +Dec 20 14:08:08 <NeddySeagoon> OK. I'M on my phone in Tescos car park +Dec 20 14:08:40 <robbat2> dabbott: would you accept? if so, we'll hold a quick vote on it +Dec 20 14:08:41 <NeddySeagoon> Correct +Dec 20 14:08:53 <dabbott> Sure :) +Dec 20 14:09:27 <robbat2> motion: dabbott replaces quantumsummers for the remainder of his board term +Dec 20 14:09:32 <NeddySeagoon> I count towards the quorum even if I depart early +Dec 20 14:09:38 <robbat2> vote +Dec 20 14:09:41 <robbat2> aye +Dec 20 14:09:42 <NeddySeagoon> Seconded +Dec 20 14:09:47 <NeddySeagoon> Aye +Dec 20 14:09:50 <SwifT> aye +Dec 20 14:10:05 <robbat2> antarus? +Dec 20 14:10:28 <antarus> aye +Dec 20 14:10:31 <antarus> (was just reading bylaws) +Dec 20 14:10:36 <robbat2> motion passes +Dec 20 14:10:38 <dabbott> thanks +Dec 20 14:10:50 <NeddySeagoon> WB dabbott +Dec 20 14:11:02 <robbat2> ok, so on the agenda +Dec 20 14:11:11 <robbat2> i will do logging +Dec 20 14:11:21 <robbat2> and posting motions etc +Dec 20 14:11:31 <dabbott> thanks robbat2 +Dec 20 14:11:35 <robbat2> old business: +Dec 20 14:11:42 <robbat2> 1. New Treasurer and account details +Dec 20 14:11:46 <NeddySeagoon> I need to cross a busy road. I'll be back while dinner cooks +Dec 20 14:12:10 <robbat2> quantumsummers sent me the online details for accounts +Dec 20 14:12:25 <robbat2> however, one set of credentials does not work (even for him); i'm pending getting his SSN to recover access +Dec 20 14:12:50 <robbat2> i have no news about getting the physical chequebook and other hardcopy documents +Dec 20 14:13:27 <robbat2> the account without credentials is the one with the largest set of missing data (since 2013) +Dec 20 14:13:46 <robbat2> he told me what that account's balance was, as of nov 30th +Dec 20 14:14:31 <robbat2> assuming that is correct, we are only looking at what happened to $300-$500 +Dec 20 14:15:04 <robbat2> the git repo contains generated reports and all of the data +Dec 20 14:15:18 <NeddySeagoon> Dinner is cooking +Dec 20 14:15:41 <NeddySeagoon> I'm still here +Dec 20 14:15:51 <robbat2> we have $6k+ available in paypal, and another ~$96k in our bank accounts +Dec 20 14:16:20 <robbat2> i can't touch anything in the bank accounts yet, but we're good +Dec 20 14:16:34 <robbat2> that concludes all details of the treasurer handover to date +Dec 20 14:16:46 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks Robin +Dec 20 14:16:50 <robbat2> after I have the missing account access and statements, i can work on our tax filing +Dec 20 14:16:58 <robbat2> thank you to antarus for getting me missing gsoc invoices +Dec 20 14:17:29 <NeddySeagoon> Do we have CPA contact details? +Dec 20 14:17:33 <robbat2> we do not +Dec 20 14:17:47 <robbat2> if I do not get them, i'm just going to find us a new CPA for tax filing +Dec 20 14:18:08 <dabbott> I don't think he ever had anyone, never say a bill +Dec 20 14:18:17 <dabbott> saw +Dec 20 14:18:22 <NeddySeagoon> Sure. I was more thinking of our 503 +Dec 20 14:18:22 <robbat2> no, he explicited said he did have a CPA before +Dec 20 14:18:37 <robbat2> it was the same person he used for his company +Dec 20 14:18:56 <robbat2> and we have paid for tax prep +Dec 20 14:18:57 <NeddySeagoon> Matt was using his CPA +Dec 20 14:19:35 <NeddySeagoon> Its worth an ask +Dec 20 14:19:57 <robbat2> i did ask for the details of his CPA previously +Dec 20 14:20:06 <robbat2> that question, along with others, was never answered +Dec 20 14:20:22 <NeddySeagoon> Thats all you can do +Dec 20 14:20:58 <antarus> I daresay it is not all we can do +Dec 20 14:21:22 <NeddySeagoon> We can write again +Dec 20 14:21:25 <robbat2> antarus: what else, besides asking again and finding a new CPA, do you propose? +Dec 20 14:22:30 <NeddySeagoon> I need to go I'll read backlog +Dec 20 14:22:35 <NeddySeagoon> Gone +Dec 20 14:22:52 <robbat2> antarus: if you don't have anything specific for it now, i'm going to move us on to the activity tracker +Dec 20 14:23:01 <antarus> yeah move on +Dec 20 14:23:24 <robbat2> due on the tracker: +Dec 20 14:23:48 <robbat2> - IRS return, we filed an for an automatic extension good until Feburary, we could file another +Dec 20 14:24:03 <robbat2> i will make that decision early next month +Dec 20 14:24:27 <robbat2> - NM annual report: it was filed I believe, however we need to re-file to drop matthew +Dec 20 14:25:02 <robbat2> - (overdue) treasurer report; i hope to put out an interrim report over xmas +Dec 20 14:25:30 <dabbott> I did the NM filing, I can update the information +Dec 20 14:25:44 <robbat2> dabbott, thanks, let's chat after the meeting +Dec 20 14:25:51 <dabbott> ok +Dec 20 14:25:52 <robbat2> (re addresses) +Dec 20 14:26:03 <robbat2> that closes general old business +Dec 20 14:26:08 <robbat2> antarus, do you have any old business? +Dec 20 14:27:14 <robbat2> my old business was already covered in the New Treasurer section +Dec 20 14:27:22 <robbat2> other than the SFC donation, which I'll return to +Dec 20 14:27:47 <robbat2> antarus, you have 1 minute, then i'll move on +Dec 20 14:28:21 <antarus> no +Dec 20 14:28:34 <robbat2> ok, swift +Dec 20 14:28:49 <SwifT> well, see mail: are we ok with updating our trademark or is it more sensible to wait further alignment with gentoo e.v. ? +Dec 20 14:29:33 <robbat2> i like NeddySeagoon's proposal that we are open about the split +Dec 20 14:29:56 <robbat2> and say that we're waiting for the e.V. +Dec 20 14:30:20 <robbat2> at the same time, we should state our intention, and set a reasonable deadline +Dec 20 14:30:52 <robbat2> swift did say he was already waiting more than a year +Dec 20 14:31:09 <SwifT> yes this has been on our agenda for quite some time +Dec 20 14:31:22 <robbat2> so, how about march as the deadline? +Dec 20 14:31:33 <robbat2> unless that would cause anybody problems with tax-year-end timing +Dec 20 14:32:05 <SwifT> i'll suggest it to them, thats another quarter to get things settled +Dec 20 14:32:40 <robbat2> thanks +Dec 20 14:32:55 <robbat2> any other old business from you? (we'll handle trademarks in that section) +Dec 20 14:33:00 <SwifT> no +Dec 20 14:33:27 <robbat2> ok, NeddySeagoon is away, so we'll skip his old business for now +Dec 20 14:33:41 <robbat2> trustee bugs +Dec 20 14:33:56 <robbat2> dabbott: the search link broke again :-9 +Dec 20 14:35:11 <dabbott> ok +Dec 20 14:35:34 <robbat2> bug #543768: join the Network Time Foundation +Dec 20 14:35:37 <willikins> robbat2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/543768 "Joining the NTF foundation"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; dabbott:trustees +Dec 20 14:35:53 <robbat2> they wanted us to sign an NDA +Dec 20 14:36:08 <robbat2> everybody seemed to be against the NDA +Dec 20 14:36:21 <dabbott> yes +Dec 20 14:36:26 <SwifT> indeed +Dec 20 14:36:35 <antarus> pretty much I see little or no value in being in the NTF +Dec 20 14:36:59 <robbat2> they approached us, for improved publicity for themselves +Dec 20 14:37:03 <robbat2> debian is a member +Dec 20 14:37:30 <robbat2> along with suse, netbsd, freebsd +Dec 20 14:38:09 <robbat2> i think we propose that we are willing to join, but that any security details they intended to hide behind NDAs +Dec 20 14:38:12 <robbat2> we are not interested in +Dec 20 14:38:28 <robbat2> if they refuse that, we wrap up discussion +Dec 20 14:39:14 <robbat2> the security team already said they are not interested in early notice of NTP vulns from NWTime (they get notice elsewhere) +Dec 20 14:40:24 <robbat2> if they really want us just for publicity, that should suffice +Dec 20 14:40:28 <SwifT> i agree with that approach +Dec 20 14:41:11 <robbat2> ok, myself or dabbott can talk to them +Dec 20 14:41:52 <robbat2> bug 488142, 547348: gsoc reimbursements; this is pending as part of my treasurer data-hunt +Dec 20 14:42:07 <robbat2> bug 568896: SFC +Dec 20 14:42:09 <willikins> https://bugs.gentoo.org/568896 "Funding Request: Matching Funds Donation to Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC)"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; robbat2:trustees +Dec 20 14:42:33 <robbat2> as I note in the bug, it was already approved in email by NeddySeagoon and swift +Dec 20 14:42:48 <robbat2> i was looking for one more vote +Dec 20 14:43:12 <dabbott> fine by me I will update the bug +Dec 20 14:43:12 <antarus> I can put my stamp on it if I can find my bugzilla password +Dec 20 14:43:24 <robbat2> thank you +Dec 20 14:43:42 <robbat2> that's all specific bugs we need to discuss +Dec 20 14:43:49 <robbat2> i have one meta-note about bugs +Dec 20 14:44:01 <robbat2> i'd like us to start using the whiteboard to note who a bug is pending on +Dec 20 14:44:22 <robbat2> i'll detail it more in email +Dec 20 14:44:37 <robbat2> i started using 'finance-audit' as a whiteboard tag in my financial data hunt +Dec 20 14:45:51 <robbat2> new business: +Dec 20 14:46:01 <robbat2> meetings calander +Dec 20 14:46:17 <robbat2> we discussed it two meetings ago, be sure to check if you have any new conflicts +Dec 20 14:46:24 <robbat2> - trademarks +Dec 20 14:46:43 <robbat2> Genfleetoo was already approved +Dec 20 14:47:22 <robbat2> e.V. ownership we already discussed +Dec 20 14:47:43 <robbat2> "gentoo foundation" UK company, neddy said was going to write the company +Dec 20 14:48:56 <robbat2> "NeuroGentoo" +Dec 20 14:49:27 <robbat2> the email thread on that latest request devolved to the e.V. discussion +Dec 20 14:49:35 <robbat2> their last proposed logo was: http://chymera.eu/img/ng.png +Dec 20 14:51:23 <antarus> are we looking for a decision there or..? +Dec 20 14:51:54 <robbat2> it devolved into a debate if we could grant it or not +Dec 20 14:52:10 <SwifT> personally I do not like a non-gentoo project with "Gentoo" in its name +Dec 20 14:52:40 <robbat2> SwifT: and what about the logo? +Dec 20 14:52:51 <robbat2> if he calls it something like "Neuro Overlay for Gentoo" +Dec 20 14:53:09 <SwifT> the logo I don't mind +Dec 20 14:53:46 <antarus> robbat2: I think that would be service identification then, IMHO +Dec 20 14:53:47 <SwifT> "Neuro Overlay for Gentoo" is better as I see that more as nominative use +Dec 20 14:54:13 <robbat2> dabbott: do we have a listing of listing trademark usage approvals? +Dec 20 14:54:34 <dabbott> no +Dec 20 14:55:57 <SwifT> hmm I might want to relook into my disapproval for the name in the project +Dec 20 14:56:04 <antarus> haha +Dec 20 14:56:08 <antarus> I was just about to agree with you +Dec 20 14:56:21 <SwifT> the new trademark seems to allow it under "products and services serving the community" +Dec 20 14:57:32 <SwifT> so question is if an overlay is software (if yes, then not allowed) or informative (if yes, then allowed) +Dec 20 14:58:06 <antarus> Also curious if neuro4gentoo would be allowed +Dec 20 14:58:54 <SwifT> i'll stay with my original opinion.. i do not agree with "gentoo" being in the name, unless it clearly is nominative use (such as "for Gentoo" or "4Gentoo") +Dec 20 14:59:47 <antarus> I am with swift here, as much as I would like to grant neurogentoo, it feels like its not defending the mark +Dec 20 15:00:02 <antarus> and we start down the slope of other people wanting similar uses +Dec 20 15:00:17 <robbat2> i'm looking at other overlay names +Dec 20 15:00:22 <robbat2> because I feel if we do deny him +Dec 20 15:00:30 <robbat2> there are a lot of others we should also complain at +Dec 20 15:00:35 <antarus> there is precedent being set the other way, sure +Dec 20 15:01:15 <antarus> I think we should work on a policy that encompasses all of those ? +Dec 20 15:01:21 <dabbott> http://gentoostudio.org/ +Dec 20 15:02:59 <robbat2> yes, I can see that, as well as some other prior art examples of mixing gentoo into the name +Dec 20 15:03:03 <robbat2> as community sites +Dec 20 15:03:31 <SwifT> gentoostudio seems to be more informative, not? +Dec 20 15:04:01 <SwifT> my main objection is against sfotware projects using the name +Dec 20 15:04:19 <dabbott> yes, more of a guide and overlay +Dec 20 15:04:20 <robbat2> is an overlay a software project? +Dec 20 15:04:57 <dabbott> custom ebuilds? +Dec 20 15:04:57 <SwifT> that's the main question here - but we own the trademark document so we can clarify how to deal with overlays... +Dec 20 15:05:26 <SwifT> i mean if we agree with overlays using the name we can adapt the document to clarif that +Dec 20 15:05:42 <robbat2> ok, we clarify it to say that ebuilds, and overlays are explicitly permitted +Dec 20 15:05:56 <robbat2> other software with gentoo as part of the name is disallowed +Dec 20 15:06:11 <antarus> I am fine with that +Dec 20 15:06:18 <dabbott> sounds good +Dec 20 15:06:21 <robbat2> (ebuilds logically being that they are meant for gentoo even without being in an overlay) +Dec 20 15:06:50 <robbat2> overlays should probably still include our required statements +Dec 20 15:06:59 <SwifT> ok, i'll update the doc and mail it around +Dec 20 15:07:13 <robbat2> saying they're unofficial and that gentoo is trademarked to gento foundation +Dec 20 15:07:36 <robbat2> ok, pending that mail, we're tentaively approving NeuroGentoo +Dec 20 15:07:52 <robbat2> so deferred for the moment +Dec 20 15:08:21 <robbat2> funding / sponsorship / advertising: we dealt with SFC already, no other items +Dec 20 15:08:29 <robbat2> Membership Applications: +Dec 20 15:08:41 <robbat2> the following developers have applied for foundation membership: +Dec 20 15:08:41 <robbat2> Jauhien Piatlicki (jauhien) +Dec 20 15:08:45 <robbat2> Daniel Campbell (zlg) +Dec 20 15:08:48 <robbat2> Yury German (blueknight) +Dec 20 15:08:52 <dabbott> yes +Dec 20 15:08:53 <SwifT> aye for all three +Dec 20 15:08:54 <antarus> aye +Dec 20 15:08:57 <robbat2> aye +Dec 20 15:08:59 <antarus> (For all) +Dec 20 15:09:04 <robbat2> (for all yes) +Dec 20 15:09:24 <dabbott> I will update the member list and sent them an email +Dec 20 15:09:27 <robbat2> motion: approve jauhien, zlg, blueknight passes +Dec 20 15:09:32 <NeddySeagoon> gentoostudio is a gentoo stage4 with lots of pro audio stuff +Dec 20 15:09:56 <robbat2> there are other stage4 +Dec 20 15:10:02 <robbat2> stage4's out there as well +Dec 20 15:10:25 <robbat2> neurogentoo might end up the same way, bootable media that you can use +Dec 20 15:10:54 <NeddySeagoon> but not the distored G logo +Dec 20 15:11:41 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: NeuroGentoo posted a new logo, with a "brain activiation map" and the text "Neuro" on top of the G logo +Dec 20 15:12:11 <NeddySeagoon> I've not seen that +Dec 20 15:12:25 <robbat2> since you're on a phone, GentooStudio's logo has a bass clef on top of the G logo +Dec 20 15:12:34 <NeddySeagoon> I'm home +Dec 20 15:12:34 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: http://chymera.eu/img/ng.png +Dec 20 15:13:22 <NeddySeagoon> Hmm its still a distortion of our G logo. Thats circular. +Dec 20 15:13:41 <robbat2> true +Dec 20 15:13:49 <robbat2> tell him to fix the shape back? +Dec 20 15:14:06 <NeddySeagoon> That would work for me. +Dec 20 15:14:28 <NeddySeagoon> I don't like similar. Its too subjective +Dec 20 15:15:02 <NeddySeagoon> Lawyers would have a field day saying its different. +Dec 20 15:15:08 <robbat2> SwifT: when you amend the trademark doc, can you add some text like this: "We will not approve any variations of the Gentoo G logo that change the aspect ratio or otherwise distort the shape" +Dec 20 15:15:18 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: do you have any other old business? +Dec 20 15:15:19 <SwifT> ok +Dec 20 15:15:47 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2: I still need to write to the UK Gentoo Foundation +Dec 20 15:15:55 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: yes, we mentioned that ;-) +Dec 20 15:16:15 <robbat2> you covered it in your email +Dec 20 15:16:23 <NeddySeagoon> OK +Dec 20 15:16:31 <robbat2> so nothing else then? +Dec 20 15:16:35 <robbat2> Date of Next Meeting - 17 Jan 2016 19:00 UTC +Dec 20 15:16:42 <NeddySeagoon> Nothing else. +Dec 20 15:16:56 <NeddySeagoon> WFM +Dec 20 15:16:57 <dabbott> fine here +Dec 20 15:17:01 <SwifT> ok +Dec 20 15:17:29 <robbat2> should be ok with me, but I have might to leave after an hour +Dec 20 15:17:42 <antarus> I might be busy that day +Dec 20 15:17:43 <NeddySeagoon> robbat2: I'll chair :) +Dec 20 15:17:59 <robbat2> antarus: put it on your google calendar now anyway +Dec 20 15:18:02 <antarus> (I know I have a thing at 23:00 UTC, and I may have plans earlier +Dec 20 15:18:23 <antarus> oh you won't send me a courtesy text? :) +Dec 20 15:18:31 <robbat2> lol, i will too +Dec 20 15:18:39 <robbat2> anybody else want a reminder text? +Dec 20 15:18:59 <NeddySeagoon> I should remember. +Dec 20 15:19:15 <SwifT> I should remember as well +Dec 20 15:19:33 <dabbott> I do update / topic +Dec 20 15:19:45 <SwifT> but my cellphone is in ldap for those who need to call me anyway ;) +Dec 20 15:19:49 <robbat2> i'll post logs soon +Dec 20 15:20:22 <robbat2> open floor... +Dec 20 15:20:50 <robbat2> (3 minutes gap for anybody to speak) +Dec 20 15:20:56 <robbat2> otherwise we're done +Dec 20 15:20:58 <NeddySeagoon> Thank you for chairing robbat2 and my apologies to the team for messing up +Dec 20 15:21:34 <robbat2> dabbott: what details do you need from me to update the NM filing? +Dec 20 15:22:06 <robbat2> antarus, SwifT: we can add you to the filing as well if you want +Dec 20 15:22:27 <dabbott> your address +Dec 20 15:22:39 <robbat2> oh, there is waht I wanted to mention +Dec 20 15:22:50 <robbat2> i want to contact wayne chew +Dec 20 15:22:51 <dabbott> I removed Matt +Dec 20 15:23:02 <robbat2> and ask if he was forwarding anything to us +Dec 20 15:23:06 <SwifT> robbat2: no need, thats just more paperwork :P +Dec 20 15:23:07 <robbat2> and update where he's sending it +Dec 20 15:23:13 <NeddySeagoon> Go ahead +Dec 20 15:23:59 <robbat2> "Principal Place Of Business Outside Of NM" +Dec 20 15:24:01 <robbat2> on the filing +Dec 20 15:24:07 <robbat2> my PO box is outside the US +Dec 20 15:24:15 <robbat2> does anybody care about that? +Dec 20 15:24:17 <NeddySeagoon> We don't need to have one +Dec 20 15:24:38 <robbat2> ok, i'll just make sure wayne chew forwards me stuff if he gets it +Dec 20 15:24:47 <NeddySeagoon> It was convient for Matt +Dec 20 15:24:57 <robbat2> (bank/tax stuff) +Dec 20 15:25:51 <dabbott> You should be able to access the bank information with a copy of the NM official corporation documents, I think I can get one +Dec 20 15:26:22 <antarus> you can add me if you want +Dec 20 15:26:27 <antarus> but I move constantly +Dec 20 15:26:37 <antarus> (e.g. I will move again in June) +Dec 20 15:26:39 <robbat2> dabbott: the bank wants the SSN of the last treasurer as proof to recover the details +Dec 20 15:26:47 <NeddySeagoon> antarus: ducking and diving :) +Dec 20 15:26:54 <robbat2> antarus: do you keep a PO box for consistent mail? +Dec 20 15:26:57 <antarus> no +Dec 20 15:27:18 <antarus> I get like 3 things that are important, they are all from the government, and the gov is good at finding me ;) +Dec 20 15:27:29 <NeddySeagoon> hehe +Dec 20 15:27:36 <antarus> the only consistent mailing address I use is google +Dec 20 15:28:00 <dabbott> robbat2: send me your address I am logged into the site, I can change it now +Dec 20 15:28:04 <antarus> antarus (Alec Warner) 1600 amphitheatre parkway, mountain view CA, 94040 +Dec 20 15:28:29 <antarus> its less likely I will get fired or quit, vs moving house, he +Dec 20 15:28:29 <NeddySeagoon> until June +Dec 20 15:28:56 <robbat2> NeddySeagoon: that's the official mailing address for google ;-) +Dec 20 15:29:04 <SwifT> if you don't need me anymore, i'm off to make late dinner +Dec 20 15:29:07 <robbat2> cya +Dec 20 15:29:22 <dabbott> bye SwifT thanks +Dec 20 15:29:33 <robbat2> dabbott: i emailed trustees with my updated address details +Dec 20 15:29:38 <NeddySeagoon> goodnight SwifT +Dec 20 15:29:38 <robbat2> both home & POBox +Dec 20 15:32:45 <NeddySeagoon> are we done ? +Dec 20 15:32:49 <robbat2> yes +Dec 20 15:33:20 <NeddySeagoon> Thanks you +Dec 20 15:34:53 <robbat2> sorry, i didn't dismiss the meeting +Dec 20 15:34:56 <robbat2> i forgot to |